on the one side our alliance, member of nato very good strong relation with america. on the other side, iran is our neighbor. so we are in a position to talk. >> rose: i'm told that trade and the relationship between turkey and iran has grown. >> turkey depends on energy we don't have oil, we don't gas. >> rose: (laughs) right. you need to find it. >> so we are getting gas. in fact, we are getting gas from iran. iran is getting gas from turkmenistan. so... but they are selling it to us, you see. we wish to sell them, of course, russia wants to sell them. china wants to sell them. american companies are also in different ways selling them. so what is important here? the sanctions should be respect ed and sanctions, all those items fallen into sanction s we have to apply this. so as i said, sanctions are binding us, also. we are very careful on that. >> rose: what can turkey do then? give me a sense of what you would say to president obama? and what would you say to president ahmadinejad? >> first of all, it should be known that... because i know perception, you see. we